Monday, September 26, 2022

"Cheat-A-Keys" Tuners Are So Much Better Than "Keith D Tuners"

I paid $300 a few years ago for just TWO Keith D tuners (for my 2nd and 3rd banjo strings). I ordered them directly from the company that makes them in New York.

Honestly, I hate the Keith D Tuners and do not recommend them to anyone! The Keith D Tuners replace your original tuning keys, so you need to completely remove and replace the original tuners the Keith D Tuners. The reason why I hate them is because they don't stay in tune, and when you need to readjust them, it is is a big hassle! Each Keith D Tuner has two separate adjusting knobs on it (one for setting the raise limit for the string, and the other for setting the lower limit).

If you banjo wanders slightly out of tune, you have to mess with the Keith D Tuner every time to get it back into tune. Each Keith D Tuner has three things to turn! You have the low limit set knob, the high limit set knob, and then the tuning peg itself that raises and lowers the string. So if your banjo is a bit out of tune (which is about every 5 minutes on my Recording King Elite-85, because it has a higher tuner gear ratio which makes them quicker to adjust but more sensitive), you cannot just turn the tuning peg to correct the pitch. You have to mess with the set screws on the Keith D Tuner. Since the Keith D Tuner has a set screw that LOCKS your high limit, you must readjust your Keith D Tuner set screw for the high limit. 

Also, unless you use a pair of pliers to tighten the set screw so it won't move, the set screws can only be tightened so much with your fingers, but it is not enough pressure to prevent the tuning from wandering. But when I do use pliers, then I have to use pliers to loosen the set screws every time I need to readjust the tuning, which is quite often. If you have ever owned any Keith D Tuners, you know what I am talking about, and it is frustrating!

The Cheat-A-Keys tuners are so much better for various reasons. You can order some nice Cheat-A-Keys from Banjo.com, but right now they are out of stock. I think the ones they sell look nicer. I ordered mine from Gold Tone in Florida (they're all out of stock right now), which are more plain looking.
  • The first reason why Cheat-A-Keys tuners are much better is that they operate completely separate from your tuning keys. This means you CAN make adjustments to each string's pitch without messing with the Cheat-A-Keys device. Nice!
  • Secondly, once set properly, the Cheat-A-Keys stays in tune! It just makes everything so much more simple, by keeping the D Tuners a separate function from the open string tuners.
  • Thirdly, you don't need to remove your original banjo tuners to use the Cheat-A-Keys. I made the odd decision to buy gold plated Keith D Tuners, but my original tuning keys are chrome (so they look out of place). I just like the gold color and wanted some gold on my banjo...lol.
One of the disadvantages of the Cheat-A-Keys is having a weird looking device attached to your headstock. It is definitely a conversation piece if you like being asked questions. I like them myself.
A demo of CHEAT-A-KEYS Tuners

Here are some more varied opinions from banjo pickers about the Cheat-A-Keys device. I personally like the Cheat-A-Keys tuners much better than the annoying Keith D Tuners. To each their own. Here is a helpful video on how to install Cheat-A-Keys D tuners...

Installing Cheat-A-Keys Banjo D Tuners

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